Another movie showing the concept of an oppressed Muslim in India... just an addition to the millions of other movies, documentaries, blogs, stories, news, etc.
I hate the idea of Hindu-Muslim divide, a fabricated propoganda which has sunken deep in our pysches. And what I hate more than the idea of Hindu-Muslim divide is the idea of an oppressed Muslim in India. The fact remains that 15% of the Muslim population is taking the remaining 85% for a ride in terms of policies and politics thanks to the propoganda.
Why do people forget that Hindu India has more Muslims in Hindu India than the whole of Pakistan? Why do people forget that Yasir Arafat (hope I got the spelling right, sorry if I got it wrong), the late leader of the Palestinian movement called Indira Gandhi, his sister. Why do we forget Hindu India was very close to almost all Arab states including Iran, Iraq. Why do we forget that Hindu India proudly displays its Mughal heritage with many roads in the capital named after Mughal kings. Ideologically there was never a clash between Hindus and Muslims. It is a British and later a Pakistani propoganda...
Let me give you an example. I was in Eilat, a coastal tourist island at the tip of Israel. It's like a cross breed between LA and Goa. Eilat is at the southern most tip of Israel. From that red sea sea-shore, you can see Egypt, Saudi-Arabia and Jordon. I was out kayaking with a friend on the Israeli side. And then we got tired and finally put the rows up on the board, with our heads towards the Red Mountains in Jordan and started talking. 30-40 minutes later, the kayak got drifted into some other country - I still dont know which one. We looked back and there was no beach. I felt that we were doomed. We somehow rowed the kayak to a rocky shore and sat on the rocks, holding the boat by its rope, hoping someone would come to rescue us. Just then an army soldier with a big gun, came walking to us with a walky takie. He yelled at us - "What are you doing here?". I replied - "We are Indians and were at Eilat doing water sports and somehow got drifted." The man looked back, smiled and said - "Oh Indians... you are allowed here and just walked back."
During my trips to Israel, I, as an Indian with an Indian passport was welcomed into Gaza and the West bank. I visited Palestine as a tourist and people treated us with warmth - both jewish and arabs. Indians are called as - Hedos, their version of Hindus.
Back to India...
So... Clashes do happen.
There is a unique place in India called as Mumbai. Every once a while there is blast, few hundred people die and the next day people are on the road at the same place, back to work. Mumbai never stops. People call it the spirit of Mumbai. And technically this spirit breaks all ideas and reasons why the terrorists got blast anything. But there is a more logical and mathematical reason behind the spirit. Out of a population of 10 crore, 200 people approximately die per blast. And there are approximately 1 or at max 2 blasts a year. That brings an average Mumbai-kars probablility of death to (200/10crore) to (400/10crore). I think my probability of death from pav-wadas and the subsequent heart attack is much higher than terrorism.
Yaa... I know... that I am trying to rationalize the killings. But its happening on both sides and many a times the government infact prefers to sit quietly than to protect people. With a population of 1 billion if a 1000 or 2000 die every year in communal riots, its possibly acceptable... if its letting the common man release the anger and keep such a diverse country united.
I am talking pure reality. Indian law and Indian government gives equal rights to every part of this society. Everyone who studies, works hard, struggles, doesn't give birth to 4 - 5 kids when he cant afford it, etc prospers. The opportunities are equal. APJ Abdul Kalam, a Muslim, was born very poor. He rose on to become the chief missile scientist of India and then the President. He worked for it - he got it.
And believe me... many times the Muslims get it upon themselves...
Let's take th funny example of Kashmir. Kashmir was originally a Hindu state. Over the years, Muslim invaders killed and forcibly converted Hindus living in Kashmir into Muslims. In 1989 - over 4 lakh Hindu Pandits were driven out of their homes by Muslims. Today, these same Hindus live in refugee camps within their own country. Sad isnt it? And look now, the world is crying... that Indian Army is killing Muslims in Kashmir. What a bunch of idiots are these Kashmiris, that I am ashamed to call them Indians. Sometimes I think, better dump them outside India and let them rot in fundamentalist Pakistan and enjoy the talibanisation. Moreover always remember, the government of India is spending billions and trillions of dollars every year to protect these Kashmiri Muslims.
And if you ask what is the Indian Army doing today in Kashmir?? Let me answer you this too. An Army is a faceless crowd with lot of power. It's a wild dog, a wild dog trained to kill. So wild that if you let it lose it starts killing and running over. But interestingly this dog in India is strongly leashed by law and politics unlike in Pakistan (where every once in a decade there is a coup), Bangladesh (same story), Nepal, Srilanka, China, etc. Kashmiris acted smart and outside their own brains inviting the army. The dog got lose and they are paying the price. Moreover, its common sense, if you dump 4 lakh Hindus out in a Hindu majority nation, sweet heart you dont go scot-free. And as I said, some incidents do happen, but its not because the Army is doing wrong things, its just situations people (common Kashmiris) get themselves into. Moreover the Indian Army is doing a lot of welfare work there.
1. New York Times article on Hindu Pandits
2. An Interesting Kashmiri Pandit Website
No Sir! I might sound like a fundamentalist or even a hindutva propogandist. But I am not one. I am just a rationalist and a realist.
An idea when thought is brought to this world from the virtual imagination of possibility. An idea when said and written becomes a mass reality. And a reality never dies. It stays in your pysche forever. And this is the truth of the Hindu-Muslim divide. The idea that Muslims in India are oppressed is in our subconscious. Oppression is a feeling. And this feeling like all other feelings is generated subconsciously. So if a Hindu is rejected from a government job in India, his subconscious mind abuses the government. And if a Muslim is rejected from a government job in India, his subconscious mind relates it to that false propoganda creating what is called as "the oppressed muslim in India".
Woops (Sarah Palin Style)... I just missed it... the Muslim Millionaire Slumdog in the movie is a Hindu Indian kid and the award winning music director in the movie a Muslim Indian. What an irony!! Hindu kid playing an opppressed Muslim. Did I mention that there was no Hindu Muslim rivalry at grass root level?
Ahh.. so where was I? India, my country, is a secular socialist republic democracy...
Be happy you are India. Be proud you are in India. And be grateful...
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I don't think this is what the movie mainly want to potray... ( the hindu muslim divide), its just a very very samll part of the movie which is very real... (I dont see any unreality in it ... means could happen to anyone... not very uncomman....) So if u dont want to see a movie just because a very small... not very significant part of the movie has hindu muslim divide doesn't seem to be good logic... what if the boy had been hindu ?? the movie tries to show the story of an orphan (because of riots, which happens in India)... not an "muslim" orphan....
Ok! I write stories too.. :-) and when we get down to character formulation, we try to pick characteristics which will activate inner feelings which are subconscious... so that you relate to it immediately. The human mind connects random events v fast just by providing hidden symbols and threads. The kid could have been Hindu but the fact remains that the kid was shown Muslim. If I were the story writer, I too would have made the kid a Muslim and used this to activate the inner thread - oppression of Muslims in India.
Back to what I was saying... something that hurts me more than Hindu-Muslim divide is the concept that Muslims are oppressed in India. It's not true...
Finally what we feel and say becomes reality irrespective of the ground truth. Because all of us cannot see the ground truth, hence the reality lives on in the form of perception.
Hence, I am aiming to attack the idea of an oppressed Muslim in India. And the movie is only a medium.
BTW i have seen the movie and hence can talk about it - its a nice movie.
You have got one very fundamental thing wrong here..The Kashmir issue.
Kashmir was never a hindu state. India had promised the kashmiris the choice of choosing their own government and they had been promised that they would be allowed to choose to be part of India, Pakistan or remain independent...which never happened. Before making a statement of who they should be grateful to or whether they should be allowed to rot please see the historical data on what total fraud Indian government has done on them. The Hindus were thrown out by a fanatic muslim population...not necessarily kashmiris..
They have been oppressed twice over...one on the terms of religion and the other in terms of income...The number of examples who have made it big in India even though Muslims is not proportionate to the 15% figure you are holding on to. At "grassroots level" as in poverty seriously nothing matters besides food...so religion won't play any role there..not in India not anywhere...
Your prism is that of a nationalist not a realist...you have got emotions and a point of view from the nation...not hard facts and data.
India was never a Muslim country... I am talking of 1100 AD onwards when Kashmir was changing hands between Ghandhar ... Kashmir has been ravaged with Islamic extremism since centuries. The human pysche is formed within the subconscious over years across life times through oral stories.
Check http://www.kashmir-information.com/index.html
:-)
India has been multicultural for ages..and British have caused the divide between Hindus and Muslims...But we are continuing it even now!
...Does it really matter who started the untouchability philosophy or who started the propaganda against Jews? It could continue because some normal disillusioned people needing a purpose and meaning for life continued with it...continued with using their power...there are hundred rationalisations for it and thousands of irrationalities in it..
Muslim oppression has been used many a times in many a media to create a feeling in the audience...it depends how subtle or how obvious they are...and as an audience you are free to view what you see in the movie...
And I have no problems with how you as an audience view it..
But do not give me such closed perspectives towards things...the perspective that has made you brand people into only 3 kinds in a definition you created...an audience can be any permutation and combination of it all or might not be a part of any of it at all...
And again, check your facts from laws and not opinionated blogs...
I think it is unfortunate when an author tells a reader at the beginning of an article that he has to read his piece from one of the three angles that limits the the author's imagination/viewpoint. In this case I, the reader, was asked to wear one of the specs - Secularist, Fundamentalist, Escape-tionist - before I read the piece. I hated and rejected the idea of going into the article with one of these three spectacles.
I don't want to get into the rhetorics of this article. I've read and heard many of these "India-has-more-Muslims-than-XYZ" themed statements from all and sundry. I don't want to comment on the great fictitious or real Hindu-Muslim Divide or Oppression as I don't consider myself qualified enough to comment on issues which are much beyond what we perceive of through mainstream media (TV, print and even books) as well as "real live media" like blogs and warrants first-hand experience and primary research.
But I can comment about the movie in the capacity of an average movie buff - the All-Powerful who decides the fate of movies at the box office as well in the Society. I refuse to believe that the director had any intentions of portraying the "oppression of Muslims" in India/Mumbai. The protagonist happened to be Muslim in the film. Could've been a Hindu. The protagonist's love interest was a Hindu. Why should I care that he was a Muslim and she was a Hindu. Why should I care if it was the other way round? The film was a snaphot of the World called Mumbai slums. A snaphot is what the camera sees in 1/100th of a second. It just happened that in that snapshot, the protagonist was a Muslim. Could've been a Hindu, a Sikh or a Christian. As an average movie viewer, I appreciate the beauty of the momentary snapshot. And I also appreciate that the snapshot would've been different had someone clicked life a second later. Here I give the Director the creative freedom to think and see life the way he has seen it. I appreciate the spirit of the film, which is the snapshot of the life of a slumdog. A Muslim slumdog. So?
Outside the scope of the critique of the film, somewhere I agree to the Mumbai blast danger math probability that you've calculated. I have interpreted the math as an explanation of the "resilience" of Mumbai as a one of the manifestations of apathy. But I don't think that you are trying to rationalize the blasts in the first place, as you continue in the next paragraph.
Yes, a lot ails our society. Either more or less infects every other society and the World. The Hindu-Muslim problem happens to be one of the momentary snapshots of life in India. The snapshots will vary across the World geography. I try to tackle the infection by simply smiling at every person and treating him on the merit of him/her being a Human. I prefer humanism to religion. I value my Indianness. But I value my rationale as a Human more.
So is it hurting that rigid ego when I classified the readers into categories??
It matters what happened in the past. Because what happened in the past remains in our heads as a collective union through distrust and story and feeling. It will not go away until actively removed.
We educated young generation are sitting idle neglecting the issue and ignoring it... there is a reality in India and that is suffering. We need to heal the population of their own collective past. Until then... India will always be communally charged and possibly break apart too. And we need to DO something.
Tomorrow if the collective Indian Union decides to riot, few seculars like you me and us will get killed. Its a reality. Fact remains we need mass healing. And you can heal only what you know. And to know you need awarness.
Every movement takes place in 2 stages. Initiation and the movement. There no initiation (awarness) and hence no movement. And to initiate we need a propoganda of realising what happened.
Go and tell ur maid / watchman - why are you so against the other religion. And he wont have a clear cut answer. And then how can you heal such a person. There is distrust but the root of the distrust is lost. We need to find the root and make people accept their shared good / bad past and realize that India is a secular nation.
India is a secular nation not by wish & feeling but by the reality of everyday life - ok! we are born here and we need to live with them.
India is much bigger than US, educated people.
Neglect the past and see what happens. 2000 years later, the threshold of the jews broke and they returned and took what was theirs. We do not want the threshold of the common masses to go over their heads someone. Some day this way if we keep sitting Hindutva will overrun.
We need to realize and accept and forgive that past.
I could not find myself relating to any of the genre's specified by you, so may be I'm the 4th kind of person you have met. There is a problem, I agree but also realize that we are doing something about it and it will be solved in the years to come.
Let's keep the movie out of this discussion as the issues that your blog deals with are never touched in it
1. It was always about extremists implementing the divide
2. The poor children were both Hindu's and Muslims, just that the millionaire turned out to be a Muslim
3. At every stage of life, the brothers are accompanied by Hindus a plenty
I would second your thought when you say that the Muslim Indian feels oppressed, but it is applicable only for the "average" Muslim.. the common man.. Not rich .. Not poor.. The aam aadmi, middle class. The rich and educated Indian has issues like infrastructure, poverty, education of the country to concentrate on and they have risen way beyond the Hindu Muslim fights (There might be extremists and they are obvious exceptions).On the other hand, the poor, like our slumdogs depicted in the movie, having nothing to do with your religion, cast, creed or even your name. All they are looking for is some money to survive. (So here again I feel, the movie does not bring about the issue of the oppression).
India in 2009 still has families that have been ruined due to the partition. Loss of near and dear ones, friends and even wealth will never be forgotten by the ones who have experienced it. Grandparents speak about their experiences with tears in their eyes and the sentiments (mainly of hatred) are carried forward through the generations. The Hindu (a citizen of Hindustan) always looks with anger towards the Muslim (a citizen of Pakistan) and vice versa.
This past will go a long way into the future with more and more hatred and negativity instilled amongst further generations to come. This needs to be stopped. Every religion talks about peace and love and this education must be given at the primary level.
We do not want it that way, but there exists and issue and we must do (and are doing) things to eradicate it in the future.
Slumdog Millionaire has nothing to do with oppression of Muslims.
Slumdog Millionaire has nothing to do with oppression of Muslims.
Slumdog Millionaire has nothing to do with oppression of Muslims.
Slumdog Millionaire has nothing to do with oppression of Muslims.
Slumdog Millionaire has nothing to do with oppression of Muslims.
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This article is not about a movie - its about a national issue - get over transient things O consumer
This article is not about a movie - its about a national issue - get over transient things O consumer
This article is not about a movie - its about a national issue - get over transient things O consumer
This article is not about a movie - its about a national issue - get over transient things O consumer
This article is not about a movie - its about a national issue - get over transient things O consumer
Hi Ritvij,
I can comment in part only.
Firstly, India and Pakistan both want Kashmir because of its "STRATEGIC" importance & all other factors are secondary or just made up or are symptoms of acquiring KASHMIR..
Secondly, I couldnt really link "Slumdog" and "Hindu-Muslim" thing.. Over period of 24 yrs I have never felt that there was any problem between Hindu-Muslims... But what really felt India-Pakistan divide...
The Indian middle class working people dont really bother about Hindu/Muslim.. He really cares about his OWN business.. which is to prosper... Many examples are seen while travelling in Mumbai Locals. There might be some one benefiting by creating rift (even in case of INDIA - PAKISTAN)
I watched slumdog and never cared why "Slumdog" was shown Muslim.. Even if "Slumdog" was Hindu.. the movie would be same except for the names of the characters..
Finally, it would be better if orchestrated rift creators would do some good by doing social work for the country.
You have excellent breadth of thoughts. And me still at naive stage to link all aspects of it..
Hello All The Reviewers / Commentors Of The "Blog". Let A Real Kashmiri Hindu Speak. I will be back in a few hours putting down my views.
Yes I am back. Now lets talk. Fortunately I have not seen the movie in question & I wish it to be so. Lets talk facts now. Let me ask you a question? What are we cribbing about? It is the movie or the so called oppression of mullas in India? Let me start by putting the facts straight. I am a Kashmiri pandit who was robbed of the childhood I could have had in the peace that existed before 1990 but no... lets just say "before the problem". No names or ideological differences stated yet.
Fast forward to 2009, 20 years later, Mumbai. A guy is earning his bread here. What does he have to show for all the work he has put in to rebuild his life? Nothing. He lost his childhood, home & things you readers cant even imagine.
Now the question is posed "Are Muslims Opressed?". He laughs. Hell NO!!! If anything they are the opressors. In guise of being a minority they are the ones who are robbing India of its identity.
Let me state facts not bearing in 1100 AD etc but ones bearing now at this very moment. It doesnt take a genius to recognise that Mullas are like a virus that have spread to India in 7th century like the author says. Sorry cant confirm that. Hindu history has been so diluted with their advent that it is very difficult to be certain. Oh yes the facts. Lets list them shall we:
1) Mumbai: The city of Kolis. Where from did Mullas come here? Yet today we can see that all around mumbai they have made their "nests". "Mira Road", "Andheri", "Bandra", "Dadar", "Downtown Area". Get the picture. No well let me make it so. Every one of these places is infested with these leeches called Mullas. They pratically run along all the town. Identity of a place is defined by its culture. Should I say that the culture of these places is what these Mullas represent?
2) Terror: Cutscene: Mumbai road. You are walking. You bump into a guy. He turns out to be a Mulla. White flowing robes, The cap & all. Now tell me something. Will you for a moment feel the FEAR? How is an "opressed" community so powerful that they can make you pee in you pants in a moment?
3) Guns et al: Lets talk about popular belief. If you think about terrorists what is the first image that you conjure up? Yes right Mullas again. Now now why is that? Is it the media that is maligning them? Now come on can they even be?
4) Terrorism: Lets talk about statistics, no religion etc. Lets talk about all the attacks that have been carried out against established governments, as a show of power etc all over the world. What is the common thing in most of them? Mullas again. Bin Laden, Iraqi dictator etc all Mullas. Get the point.
5) Films: Iqbal, Slumdog Milliionare etc why are these movies having Mullas as protagonist / opressed? Why not "some obscure community I dnow know even the name of" instead of Mullas who form a huge percentage of Indians.
6) Resources: Recently when J&K government alloted land to Amarnath shrine board.... All of us know what happened. Mullas protesting on streets, curfews etc. In the end order was revoked. Why? And we talk about Musllims being opressed.
7) Oh before I forget Pakistan, Oh how silly of me, how can I forget our beloved neighbour, I am a Kashmiri after all. Now really after all this do I have to explain this point too. Come on guys get the picture, I am tired of typing it out for you.
Summary:
Mullas are not opressed, far from it. They are the opressors. They are the plague that has engulfed the world & are robbing it off its identity, replacing it with their own. An identity of destruction. In the arab they dont allow you to preach your religion but expect the same right in your country. That is opression.
PS: To people who may say: "Not all Mullas are bad. See I have my friend & he is good". Agreed he may be. But have you ever heard of "collateral damage". If a Mulla stands in front of you intending to kill you. Will you spend the time to find out if he is good or bad? Isnt your life worth enough not to risk it?
In any scenario its perception on which our actions are based. Why should it be any different here? If I fear threat from a Mulla WHY shouldnt I take action to protect MY LIFE or MY WAY OF LIFE? Either way I will be saving what is precious to me. Is a Mulla even worth risking your life?
Mr. bornlibra23,
Honestly I don't want to engage in any intellectual gyaan here and I was on this thread only to because I cared about the movie.
So I will just try to clarify one of your so-called facts:
YOU ASKED
5) Films: Iqbal, Slumdog Milliionare etc why are these movies having Mullas as protagonist / opressed?
Not necessarily so. Let's see...
a. Lagaan
b. Gadar
c. Ghayal
d. Rang De Basanti
e. Khosla Ka Ghosla
f. Phir Milenge
g. Devdas
h. Kya Kehna
i. Kranti
j. Hindustani
k. Roja
Just 11 movies I could think of right now, in which the lead protagonist is oppressed and is NOT a Muslim.
Hence, proved.
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On a separate note, Sir, I am really sorry about all that you had to face.
However, I do not agree with you.
I choose to look at people as individuals, rather than judging them by the religion they were born in.
We all have our opinions and they may not match.
What is important though, is that we limit our opinions to ourselves and resist the urge of imposing them to everyone else.
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And in any case, I'd like to reiterate:
Slumdog Millionaire has nothing to do with oppression of Muslims in India
bornlibra23
Let me answer your other questions as well...
Mumbai is not a city of kolis alone, it is one of the most multicultural city in India. The "nests" you are talking about have been made by just abour every community and Mumbai is Mumbai because of all these combined cultures.
Terror is something that is still being investigated. We have only seen the faces of the last person not the mastermind behind each attack. Hundreds and thousands were killed in various riots and not only Hindus or Muslims or Sikhs or Christians...but all. Media highlights the point of view of the majority and the powerful as it is they who control it. And if you don't follow the line, you get eliminated, the way it is happening in various parts of the world including our very own "sweet" neighbour Sri Lanka.
For you Bin laden is a terrorist, for a normal citizen of Palestine, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Korea, Cuba, and many more, USA is the terrorist.
Terrorism has no religion. Do not bring the two together.
Resources were also created by breaking the Babri masjid. We surely don't want innocent lives to be sacrificed for Amarnath.
If you have a look at pakistan media, they have painted a similar ugly picture about India. Does that mean you and I and the millions others are perpetrators of crimes committed by unknown faces?
India is democratic and secular, unlike the Arab nations that you are talking about, which obviously means you can follow religion of your choice. If we take up stands against religion there would be no difference between US and THEM.
You are confusing between two things: terrorism and muslims. They are not the same. Each community has suffered and each one of us has decided to take up arms against the other. That creates more wounds, not healing.
One of my closest friend is a Kashmiri Pandit who also had to leave Kashmir in the 90s. I can understand your pain. But the man coming to kill you does not wear the religion around him/ her.
Don't give them a religion. Religion is a path to God, the murderers of innocent lives are on the path of hell.
Post bornlibra23...
@Mihir - This post is beyond a stupid movie!
@Sam -
1. Srilanka is a different case. LTTE was formed by Indian support due to maintain national integrity of India.
2. Bin laden is considered a terrorist in Palestine/Turkey... too.
3. Terrorism does not have a religion but religion dominates terrorism. Fact remains Islam today is the religion majorly dominating the scene.
4. Babri Masjid was created on top of a Hindu temple. The majority just reinstored what was rightfully Hindu.
5. Pakistan is a failed state with its media controlled by RAW! The major propaganda manager today in Pak media - Zaid Hamid who made the whole story post 26/11 was an ex-Afghan mujhadeen.
6. India is not SECULAR beyond the constitution.
7. All muslims are not terrorists but most terrorists are muslims!!
8. Agree - crowd doesn't have a face. But the crowd HAD a religion.
I am working on a new article - The NOTION of secularism in India... will take some more weeks. Do read it!
Ritvij, My Friend,
This piece of blog, is exactly how one should not write.
Title is "Why I dont wanna watch Slumdog Millionaire?", why are talking about all the things that are not relevant to the movie.
You are makeing the joke of your own blog by mentioning that you did actualy watch the movie in one of the comments.
You need to google on "coherent expression of thoughts".
And BTW, most of the facts you have mentioned are
1) Incomplete.
2) Out of Context.
3) No way related to anything.
For example, "I went to Israel...blah blah blah....
i went to red sea.. blah..blah blah... i went kayaking.. blah blah blah..."
This part jsut indicates that you want to show what you did. This is not needed here. We dont need to know where is RED SEA. We all know it.
Secondly, "Soilder came by.. blah blah blah... I am an Indian..he went back.."
Dosent have to do with any kind of opression of any kind. If you were Israeli or something, you might not exist to write this, so called, "Complete waste of time" essay or waht ever. Even if you ahppened to say that "I am a Pakistani or Russian or XYZ", he would ahve still wlaked away.
Anyways, I am sure you can argue back on all my statements. Hell even I can do it myself. But the fact still remains. "This blog is rotten"
Absolutely appreciate you coming and "investing" your time on my "rotten" blog Farhan. Thanks dude!! :-)
Moreover you took the time of writing the "comment" shows and proves
1. The blog wasnt after all irrelevant enough to be ignored
2. The topic wasn't irrelevant enough
3. The post though written in a trashy was (I never said I knew how to write)... you read it, analyzed it and then commented.
Yes the post was made to provoke !!
A famous movie name, a burning issue which divides everyone in India, Hindu-Muslim, pseudo-secularism, Hindutva, the K issue, ... what not! It did attract.. and you read it. Purpose achieved!
That is one reason why i do not comment on your posts as i know you find some self-convincing way to justify your claims eventhough no one seem to agree with you.
and trust me it wasnt a provoking blog. it was rotten. I am not even going to talk about what you mentioned in the blog and its totally delusional..
and BTW, every one is trying to tell you same thing. Its jsut that you are not open to suggestions. you are jsut open to preceptive interpretations and delusional facts.
Again I agree with your point of FIND A WAY ... here I will criticize myself and probably others too. There is something called as logic. It has around 4 different usages. But in general its called logic. Its the most trashy-crappy system of reasoning.... the idea that logic as a means for reasoning and thinking sucks is also contrary to what most people believe!
About the delusion.. stupid that it might sound - I firmly believe I see something that most don't'!
Let me repeat this one last time - "I am secular, purely Indian, do not believe in Hindutva, am not anti-Islam / Christianity / Judaism, am not politically charged, and lastly I am only culturally Hindu. MY RELIGION is NOT HINDUISM!! And I am also not a WRITER. There is something rotting in India. My study / questioning / interrogation... led me to some conclusions - what is rotting and why is it rotting! Of course, I admit again I could not put it down in this article (hence am open to the criticism of the article) ...
@Mihir:
Are you in a right frame of mind while writing the names of films!!!!
None of the films have the least bit to do with terror & oppression of a religion by others. Man you are so off the topic that you may fall off the plank!!!!
@Mihir
You talk about not imposing your views on others. Let me ask you a question. Mullas explicitly ask for democratic freedom in any country they are in. Now in their homeland the Arab all other religions are denied permission to exist in a free atmosphere. They cant construct temples etc. And you talk about imposing views!!! Dont put your head in the ground like an ostrich, you are not one.
@Samitha
Other nests dont make you crawl out of your skin while just passing through them. Considering the fact that most terrorists are mullas.. I think that you will get the point nicely. USA declares open war not what pakistan is doing for the last two decades. About pakistani media; has there EVER been conclusive evidence that India has ever done anything like what pakistan has done to us!!!! OK if I agree with you that all mullas are not terrorists; please tell me why most of terrorists are mullas?
http://www.dawn.net/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/world/what-india-should-do-ha
The link posted by you is a reality that most of in India prefer to be oblivious to. Of course most of us cant handle reality.
Re-Ite-Rating and Re-quote-Ing bornlibra23 : "Man you are so off the topic that you may fall off the plank!!!!"
Hey fahran
How about commenting on my last post?
Read this
Indian Author - Pakistani Newspaper
http://beta.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/Dawn%20Content%20Library/dawn/news/world/slumdog-and-still-penniless-szh
Read this - TimesOfIndia
Article name = Secularist's Doublespeak
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Secularists-doublespeak/articleshow/3947938.cms
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